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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Maryellen Greulich</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>Ok story circle friends and Gene...  <br/>I clicked through a link my friend posted on facebook this morning, <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/05/17/152913171/the-essence-of-science-explained-in-63-seconds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Essence of Science Explained in 63 Seconds</a>, which reminded me of the material we covered this week <a href="http://www.realisticliving.org/PDF/Enigma/x11Layers412.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chapter 11 from Gene Marshall’s book, The Enigma of Consciousness</a>.  <br/><br/>Gene Marshall says, “Sense-making is a function of our symbol-using form of consciousness. “  <br/><br/>So if I understand what he’s pointing to, human beings are symbol making creatures.  Philosophy, religion, science are all human constructs, designed to help human beings making sense of and organize “WHAT IS.”  The “WHAT IS” doesn’t care, or isn’t affected by our attempts to understand it - it simply is.  <br/><br/>In the article by Robert Krulwich listed above, he also talks about science as our human way of trying to explain ‘what is’.  He says, “The world knows.  Our minds guess.  In any contest between the two, the World Out There wins.”  So what Krulwich describes as the “World Out There” and what Marshall talks about as “WHAT IS” reminded me of each other.  <br/><br/>Marshall takes this concept further when he emphasizes a word that stopped many of us in our tracks as we were reading this article:  transrational.  What does it mean when something is transrational?  It transcends rationality, it is beyond what is rational.  <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transrational" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transrational</a> <br/><br/>The “WHAT IS” is transrational.  It’s beyond our ability to rationalize or make sense of, it simply is.  I can’t make sense of it.  I can’t understand it.  I can’t explain it through any means that exists.  It’s beyond the limitations of the human thinking mind.  Science isn’t going to explain it.  Religion isn’t going to make sense of it.  The “WHAT IS” is complete and total Overall Mystery that never makes sense.  <br/><br/>So the question becomes, if I can’t understand it, and am never going to make sense of it, how do I relate to “WHAT IS”?  <br/><br/>Marshall talks about “wonder-based consciousness”.  He says it’s the noticing of ourselves noticing our noticing consciousness.  This awareness only exists in the now in which we are living, in the present.  And because this wonder and presence can only exist in the now and cannot be understood with the human thinking mind, we are released from despair.  We are released from trying to make sense or be anywhere other than the now.  We are released from fighting Reality to be anything other than the way of “WHAT IS”.<br/><br/>So what would it mean if I lived my life trusting completely in the Overall Mystery, the “WHAT IS” that never makes sense?  <br/><br/>I don’t know.  Seems like it would be a whole new way of living.  I’ve been wondering a lot about how to live in flow.  And not just live in the flow every now and again, but most of the time.  I know it’s possible, and I know I’m no where near there.  I’m getting a sense that a key to this plummet into the flowing water and being able to ride the current throughout life - is trusting in “WHAT IS” implicitly.  I find that concept to be much easier said than done.  Trusting in “WHAT IS” means acknowledging that what I can control is pretty much nil.    <br/><br/>Let’s take the example of traveling.  For me, traveling always is a time of being in the throws of “WHAT IS”.  I can’t control if my flight is delayed, or if the line at security is really long, or If I’m hungry and don’t have time in between flights to grab a bite.  I can’t control if the kid behind me is having a temper tantrum and kicking the **** out of the back of my seat. These are all common  travel encounters that I can’t do a darn thing about.  Now, I can set myself up for success.  I can be at the airport early so that if that security line is long, it’s no sweat.  I can pack snacks in my bag so that if I’m in a tight spot, I can still have something to eat.  As a parent, I can also pack books and toys for my child so that he is happy and not the kid who is kicking the **** out of someone else’s seat.  So I can prepare myself for the best outcome, and yet I totally realize and have experienced, that even by being  prepared, I can’t be prepared for every possibility.  There are too many possibilities, too many unknowns, it’s a mystery that it works at all.<br/><br/>One time I was on a flight that was grounded for 3 hours on the tarmac.  It was hot, I was hungry, and the kid behind me was having a tantrum and kicking the **** out of my seat as his parents sat helpless.  It was a tough 3 hours.  During the first hour or so, anger, infuriation about the situation and frustration welled up inside of me.  I could not believe what a horrid scenario I had been delivered into.  After a while, I surrendered and decided to close my eyes and meditate.  Now I don’t often practice meditation, but in that moment, I could do nothing.  So it seemed like a good idea to retreat into inner silence.  I remember hearing all of the complaining and groaning of the other passengers, the screaming cries of the children, the placating explanations of the flight attendants - it all became a buffer of ambient noise to my interior solace.  I related to the kicking in my lower back as a nice massage, then began to ignore it altogether.  I began to feel a great compassion for the kid, who was really really not having a good time.  Finally the kid did stop kicking and eventually, our flight took off.  Changing my mind about how I felt about and related to this experience changed the experience itself for me.  It did not change what was happening, but it did change my interior world.  <br/><br/>So yes, “WHAT IS” is what is and I can’t change it or make sense of it.  But I can choose how to relate to it, I can even choose what to call it, which creates my experience of it.  <br/><br/>How can I do this in my life?  Since I’m processing out loud here... I guess I can let my desire to be in the flow override my need to be in control.  Trust that “WHAT IS” is working and I get to go along for the ride.  That doesn’t mean I take a backseat in my life, but it does mean that I accept what Reality delivers, even if it’s not what I had in mind.  Then I choose how to relate to it.  And I don’t say that lightly.  This is not easy - especially in life changing situations.  Like when someone you love leaves you, or dies, or a friend disappoints you or hurts you or you lose your job or you gain weight or you don’t get promoted or something you’ve been working hard for just slips through your fingers.  There are so many hardships, disappointments, tragedies that we encounter in life.  So I’m just supposed to sit here and say, “yes? Thank you!  I’ll have another!?”  I guess so.<br/><br/>That’s kind of counter to everything I’ve been taught to do.  And yet, it’s all we really can do.  Say yes to “WHAT IS” even when it’s not what we thought we wanted.  Reality ain’t always pretty, but it’s always Reality, and it does deliver us into a different state of being by inviting us to choose to accept “WHAT IS” implicitly.  It delivers us from despair.  After all, we weren’t actually in control anyway.     <br/><br/>I re-watched these video clips from <a href="http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=2&t2=3&t3=148" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Message 8 (Nurturing the Infinite Addiction , 2009)</a>.  And in this message, Michael talks about how to relate to the “WHAT IS” or the World Out There or how he phrases it, That-Which-Does-Not-Move.... and Moves All Things.  I found it helpful in processing all of this (which by the way, I still am totally mystified by).  Here is a short clip entitled, <a href="http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=3&t3=146" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">We Are Flow Beings</a>.<br/><br/>I’d really appreciate any insights, feedback, advice from anyone on any of this.  Just throwin it out there!</b>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Gene Marshall</title>
<description><![CDATA[Dear Enigma Readers,<br/><br/>This book is a work in progress, and I have added another chapter which changes the whole structure of Part Six and the table of contents.<br/><br/>Also I have added a file containing a chart to go with the table of contents.<br/><br/>Check out this chart. It is the first file in the list.<br/><br/>Do you need the URL?  Here it is:  <a href="http://www.RealisticLiving.org/PDF/Enigma/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealisticLiving.org/PDF/Enigma/</a><br/><br/>Gene]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:45:18 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Michael D. May</title>
<description><![CDATA[JoAnne, Thank you for this response and this perceptive question.  <br/><br/>At the age of 14, 48 years ago (you do the math), I became totally captured by the Ecumenical Institute and it's Dean, Joseph W. Mathews (the Institute of Cultural Affairs (ICA) grew out of this).  Yes, my life and this website and the curriculum of <i>Interior Mythos Journeys</i> is nothing more nor less than an effort to continue the great work which he promoted and embodied.  I was privileged to have been nurtured by Joe and the great teachers that served at his side until his death in 1977.  I shared in the processional that walked through his room and viewed his body on the day of his death.  The guidance of his life and his death has never released me; nor do I desire to be released.  The phrase Joe and the 1968 Research Assembly used in the "New Religious Mode" language was "Heavenly Sorrow."  So, yes, you have correctly discerned that "ontological sorrow" is simply a stolen and repackaged phrase from the very deep well of which I have had the privilege of drinking.  I would love to learn more about your encounter with the ICA and the impact this connection has had on your life.  <br/><br/>And yes, we can learn a lot by wandering through graveyards!]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from JoAnne Simson</title>
<description><![CDATA[<strong>Michael D. May</strong> wrote:<br/><div class=quote>Sharon, One of the great teachers in my life, Joe Mathews, <br/>Michael, was the "Joe Mathews" you speak of a founder of the ICA (Institute of Cultural Affairs)?<br/><br/>In your recent, very touching ("out there") blog, you speak of "ontological sorrow," as the condition of authentic connection to that-which-is. I think you've touched on something very real in that phrase, the internal pain of knowing that what we experience is fleeting. What we remember can endure much longer, though, in consciousness. I spent a year in France when I was much younger, and liked to wander through churches and graveyards. A frequent phrase on the headstones was "<i>Tout passe, tout s'efface, hors le souvenir</i>," ("Everything passes, everything disappears, except the memory.")<br/><em>edited by JoAnne Simson on 5/6/2012</em>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Michael D. May</title>
<description><![CDATA[Michael, Thank you for giving us all another way to communicate "That-Which-Cannot-Be-Said!"   I hope you will continue to find your way around this website and Discussion Forum and provide additional links to musical messages that say The Unsayable; including some of your own extraordinary work.<br/><br/>Kaze, Thank you for these generous words and for sharing this journey with the young woman fortunate enough to be mentored by you.  About the strongest video art form I have encountered in my lifetime was created by Zachary's sister about his life and was shared at his memorial service.  This video art form also provides an encounter with Zachary and That-Which-Cannot-Be-Contained.  Here is the link: <a href="http://www.mayvideo.com/zachary.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mayvideo.com/zachary.html</a> <br/><br/>Maryellen, More words of mine are not necessary.]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Michael Fitzpatrick</title>
<description><![CDATA[Ontological sorrow, indeed. One way it sounds:<br/><br/><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6Ai7tc8ceoI"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6Ai7tc8ceoI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Gene Marshall</title>
<description><![CDATA[Dear Cynthia B.<br/><br/>Your question ”why we (humans) make assumptions about the consciousness of manifestations, critters and the earth itself?” is an important question.  We humans make assumptions about everything, and you are right to suspect that some of those assumptions miss the mark.  We can guess that a dog’s world (with that incredible sense of smell) is quite different from our own, but we cannot actually know what life as a dog is like.  Nor can we be certain about our guesses with regard to another human beings, but we all guess.   And we have to guess in order to make good decisions for our survival, safety, and flourishing.<br/><br/>In my chapter 8 point seven about human consciousness, I intend no diminution of the consciousness of other living forms. I am not attempting to glorify being human.  I am only attempting to describe for myself and others what human consciousness is.  I am attempting to stick with my experiences about this and make guesses that conform to that experience.<br/><br/>Why is this even important?  It is important to know who who I am.  It is important to know what it is that I share with other animal life.  And it is important to know the qualities that I am responsible to be that cat or a dog cannot be expected to be.  <br/><br/>Human arrogance is not in knowing how we are different, but in viewing those differences as a right to hold that which is different in contempt.  For example, you surely realize that their are differences in being a woman rather than a man.  But knowing that is not arrogance.  Arrogance would be viewing that difference as a proof that being a women is better than being a man.  Of course it is more frequent that men (and some women) have thought that being a man is better than being a woman.  The key here is simply noticing what is true about both sexes and affirming that what is true is what is good.<br/><br/>My point about mountains not being conscious is not intended to say something negative about mountains, but simply to clarify what I mean by “consciousness.”   This is my purpose: to describe what consciousness is.  If you say that a mountain is conscious and mean by “conscious” what you mean when you apply that word to humans, then your concept of consciousness is questionable to me.]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Kaze Gadway</title>
<description><![CDATA[Michael. What an awesome post on Zachary. It is profound and real. I never knew Zachary but you have put him into my memory. I'm on a training trip in Colorado with some of the young women on the Leadership Team. I will read this to them tonight and send you their thoughts from a Native American perspective. Thank you for sharing this.  Kaze]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Maryellen Greulich</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>Dad, thank you for sharing your post.  I am so grateful that you are always out there on the edge, doing things like consorting with Zachary.  It encourages me to do the same!<br/><br/>I always feel that the day Zachary died, and the day he was born are interesting days.  I never know how I “should” feel.  What I “should” do.  I had no idea how totally taboo and vague the subject of death is in our culture, until I lost Zach. What the heck do I do now?  How do I talk about it?  How do I continue to live?  How do I remember?  I miss him every day, every moment.  But certainly these two days are special somehow, the day he entered his body and the day he left.  <br/><br/>I don’t know what happens when our bodies die.  I’m pretty sure no “body” can have a definitive answer to that question.  Lots of folks have ideas, and I can’t deny that I haven’t also been plagued by this question.  I love your notion of asking not “Where did Zach go?” but “Where did he go in my consciousness?”  I guess that’s the only question that we can answer, because we don’t know where he “is.”  Yet I think both questions are worth exploring.  <br/><br/>Soon after Zach died, I remember sitting outside on the back porch when a spring storm began to form.  I stayed in the wind, watching the trees sway and allowing myself to become enveloped.  The sky grew a yellowish green but I resisted going inside.  There was something about that moment that was so comforting.  I felt an understanding in that natural chaos - I felt that Zachary was there as part of the fabric of everything - reaching through the storm to say that it’s okay, that he loved me, and that because he had released his body he had become part of it all.  <br/><br/>I feel like Zachary continues to exist, not in the form that he had before as a human being, but in a different state of being.  In my human state of being, I am bound by certain physical laws.  I don’t know what kind of laws bind Zachary’s current state of being, or maybe he is without boundaries.  At least, I like to think of him that way.  I like to think of him learning about all that is, so connected to the higher consciousness.  I am grateful for your image of him as a messenger of the deep.  I feel like he’s watching over little Augustine Zachary, protecting and guiding him.  Maybe that’s where folks got the notion of “angels”.  I wonder about these things, knowing that I don’t know and won’t know until I cross over that threshold too.<br/><br/>But since I don’t know where he “is” or even what he “is”, I’ll tackle the question of where he is in my consciousness.  Four years ago I had no idea that Zachary’s transition out of his body would thrust me into a transition into my own life.  That was the starting point of both a gaping hole in my heart, and a window being opened in my consciousness.   I couldn’t stop wondering.  My consciousness blew up.  Wonder wonder wonder.  I still can’t stop.  I have an insatiable longing.  I long for what it is I don’t even know.  It’s longing for wholeness, for understanding, for closeness and connection with mystery, for silence, for emptiness, for fullness, for nothing, for everything.  Sometimes it drives me crazy, because I can’t turn it off!  And I thank Zachary for that.  Because even though it is sometimes TOO MUCH longing, it has also given me a richness and preciousness to life.  I am now able to engage with my own everyday life in a way I was not conscious of before, because this window has been opened.  <br/><br/>It’s not that I know anything different than I did before, in fact, I feel like I know less.  This transformation has mostly been comprised of deconstructing, unravelling, deprogramming, coming undone, not understanding how it all works.  <br/><br/>And now that the window has been opened so wide, I sometimes have trouble out in the world, where so many people’s windows are shut.  Some are even sealed up tight, maybe even weather-proofed.  And I want them to open their windows but it’s not up to me to decide.  I want them to experience this kind of love and longing, I want them to experience the fullness of life that can only come with risk and loss - with throwing your heart out there and having it served back to you.   Bittersweetness.  This is the human experience and it is worth it.  <br/><br/>So I haven’t let go and moved on.  It’s a tricky relationship this one between me and Zach, who is now without body.  I ask him, “Zachary did you see what your silly nephew just did?”, “Zachary, do you like black licorice?”, “how do you make your sausage gravy?”   <br/><br/>Zachary often appears in my dreams.  The reoccurring theme is this:  Zach has come back to life, but it’s a big SECRET.  No one outside of our family knows that he’s returned to his body.  He died, but he returned.  Now sometimes in his new human form he is a little boy, sometimes he is a teenager, sometimes he still has cancer.  In one dream he was an enlightened, monk-like man who roamed the earth.  In my dream last night, he was a good ol’ boy redneck.  But whatever form he takes, I am always elated to see him and unbelievably overwhelmed that he’s come back to earth.  I’m also always completely protective of this huge secret, because if anyone found out he came back, it would be our undoing.  Somehow they would not understand, and would squash this happy reunion.  <br/><br/>The message to me is to keep the window open.  To continue to love him every moment, as if his essential being is right here by my side.  To see him as “alive” but without body.  And to know that this is probably not going to be a popular notion with anyone else.<br/><br/>Although my human centered wish is to have Zachary in my life the way that it used to be - to swap recipes with, make-up spontaneous songs, dance, or just relax and reminisce - my Reality centered wish is to love the way life is now with all of my heart.  And to know that he is already present in all of these moments, if I open myself up to it.  <br/><br/>Because of his graceful transition into a different state of being, I am able to appreciate my human experience in a new way.  It puts me back into the present moment of my everyday life.  It helps me to see that part of the human journey is to learn what it means to be fully human, and part of our journey is to wonder about the “non-bodily” essence of ourselves that is part of everything.  <br/><br/>Today I celebrate Zachary with our family & friends, eating a cheeseburger in his honor, drinking a cold beer, feeling the warm sun in my face, riding my bike through the rain, holding sweet Augustine in my arms as he sleeps, being present to the “now” and loving Zachary Paul with all of my heart.  <br/><br/><br/></b>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from CynthiaB</title>
<description><![CDATA[Dear Gene,<br/>I want to ask why we (humans) make assumptions about the consciousness of manifestations, critters and the earth itself.  You and I share physiology, biology, and much culture; yet I presume that I could neither guess the content nor process of your perceptions, thoughts, or behaviors.  More importantly, why would we declare about other species or even rocks?  (The seventh truth from chapter 8.)  What's the necessity in declaring superiority and exclusivity?]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;What is Reality? - For Real!&quot; a message from Amanda Storywarrior</title>
<description><![CDATA[I am grateful for today's Blog.   It is <u>May the 4th,</u> Star Wars Day, and Zachary is a special teacher.<br/><br/>In a recent interview with Thich Nhat Hanh, Oprah asked him, "What happens when we die?"<br/><br/>He responded, "<i>Every thought you produce, anything you say, any action you do, it bears your signature.  And that's your continuation. When this body disintegrates, you continue on with your actions. It's like the cloud in the sky. When the cloud is no longer in the sky, it hasn't died. The cloud is continued in other forms like rain or snow or ice. Our nature is the nature of no birth and no death. It is impossible for a cloud to pass from being into nonbeing. And that is true with a beloved person. They have not died. They have continued in many new forms and you can look deeply and recognize them in you and around you</i>."<br/><br/><br/>The Force Is With You!]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Sarah St. John Woolford</title>
<description><![CDATA[We have been studying Nikos Kazanzakis's Saviors of God and Gene Marshall's Enigma of Consciousness in our story circle and I must say I like Mr. Marshall way more than Mr. Kazanzakis. It just makes more sense to me although I do think that they compliment each other, The Enigma of Consciousness is more direct and I don't get confused in the poetic mystic. Thank you Mr. Marshall!!]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Michael D. May</title>
<description><![CDATA[Thank you Gene, Joyce, and Richard for all you have done to further revise, deepen, and explore this material; especially the most-recent upgrade which I am only beginning to work through.  <br/><br/>Over the past 35 years, since the death of Joe Mathews in 1977, I know of no one on the planet who has done more to advance the exploration of the New Religious Mode, than Gene Marshall.  Gene was one of my most-valued teachers 40 years ago and remains so today.   Gene has steadfastly "stood in the desert" and has continued the work of Joe Mathews, pioneering in these substantive areas that are largely ignored by the official, institutional, and popular voices of our time.   The more I get into the depth of <u>The Enigma of Consciousness</u> the more I am grateful for it's existence and the fresh dialogue it is provoking in a new century over the changeless and timeless depth that alone can transform our lives in the Light of Reality.  <br/><br/>I am becoming clear that engaging this material is not a "fast read;" nor should it be.  Plan on this Discussion Thread being around for a long time with sluggish participation.   This Discussion Thread may takes years to "catch on" but the persuasiveness of That-Which-Is-Finally-Real has a way of hanging around quite apart from current popularity.   In our local weekly Story Circle I am learning that smaller excerpts from select chapters of <u>The Enigma</u> are more digestible for most folks and can provoke some good group conversation.  We may post some of these Discussion Group excerpts with corresponding Group Discussion Questions in the Story Circle Curriculum Text section of this site later if Gene is comfortable with this pedagogical option.  Regardless, I encourage everyone following this Thread to engage the material and the journey it provokes as well as contributing reflections and grounding personal experiences and illustrations to this Discussion Forum.  <br/><br/>The seeds of a timeless interior revolutions are certainly contained in <u>The Enigma of Consciousness</u>.]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Gene Marshall</title>
<description><![CDATA[Dear companions in the philosophy of consciousness and religion,<br/><br/>With much assistance from Alan Richard, Joyce Marshall, Michael May and others, I  have completed a rewrite of all 34 chapters of this book.  If you have already downloaded and read some of the earlier versions, you may be surprised at how much some of these chapters have changed.  In order to guide you in keeping up with this ongoing development, I have given each chapter a date code.  412 means April 2012. 312A means a second revision put up in March 2012.<br/><br/>These chapters are still works in progress.  Alan Richard will be contributing more depth philosophical analysis.  He is now working on chapter 7.  I am noticing that the descriptive poetry on some of the states of profound humanness need to be improved.  Your insights and questions are also still valued.  Even seemingly trivial comments can sometimes lead to vast improvements in the text. <br/><br/>Also, we need to discuss these topics together toward building the elements of consensus we religious revolutionaries need in order to succeed in making the contributions we want to make.]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;Contemporary Mythic Language&quot; a message from Paula Tozer</title>
<description><![CDATA[Hi Michael!<br/><br/>I first noticed the link while working towards my 1st Dan in Taekondo.  At that time I was going through a challenging life event that sapped my energy.  I discovered something nurturing and extremely beneficial about my martial arts class - besides the the time simply flying by, I found I was able to stop my mind from its insistence on spasming over what was going on in my life.  I had to focus, be aware and in the present moment . . or get something broken, or kicked in the head!  I became so relieved to go to that space of virtually no-mind that I used up most of my vacation time so I could attend the evening classes (I was working evenings at the time).    That is when I learned about Presence.<br/><br/>Also I learned how good it felt to achieve, and to really know what it felt like to be the creator of my own destiny.  It was within my power to create a positive self-image and to realize, even more profoundly, that it had nothing at all to do with age (I achieved 1st Dan at 42) - it had to do with mindset.  I have to admit that I did take a bit longer than my 15 year old son to recover from an injury, but that is what it is.<br/><br/>I will always be grateful to my instructor for presenting me with the opportunity to truly integrate the image of Being an athlete.  He simply told his students that they were athletes!  And because he believed it, I believed it!!  I think I told him what his words meant to me, but it was a while ago and I will remind him next time I see him.   There was depth to his martial arts teaching that perhaps, even he is not aware of.  For me, the awareness that I had the power and the ability to be an athlete was a spiritual experience.<br/><br/>Since then, I have observed so many correlations between the spiritual and the physical that I have attempted to compile some of them in a recent blog.  I think I could write a book on that subject.  It is near and dear to my heart!<br/><br/>Just came back from a run - had a wonderful inspired thought as I was running and acted on it as soon as I entered the house.  For me, it is just another example - the moving meditation of running allows for that clear channel to be accessed, and inspiration can flow through!<br/><br/>I will certainly check out Sue's blog!  Athletes of that calibre are some of my greatest teachers!!!  <br/><br/>Thank you for sharing, Michael <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 /><br/><br/>Paula<br/><br/><strong>Michael D. May</strong> wrote:<br/><div class=quote>Paula, Thanks for noticing this profound and often ignored connection between depth and my most-personal physical container, the body. Regardless of our age or circumstance, if we choose to go on a depth interior journey all we have to do is begin testing and stretching and challenging the the apparent limits placed on us by the body. If any of us doubt the ability of our bodies to deliver us into an immediate encounter with Ultimate Reality, all we have to do is hold our breath!!! <br/><br/>You might also appreciate the recent blog by Sue Aquila, a member of the <i>Interior Mythos Journeys</i> community and an extraordinary Iron Man Triathlete competitor and coach. You will find it on the Blog section dated 8/29/2011.</div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Paula, Thanks for noticing this profound and often ignored connection between depth and my most-personal physical container, the body.   Regardless of our age or circumstance, if we choose to go on a depth interior journey all we have to do is begin testing and stretching and challenging the the apparent limits placed on us by the body.  If any of us doubt the ability of our bodies to deliver us into an immediate encounter with Ultimate Reality, all we have to do is hold our breath!!!  <br/><br/>You might also appreciate the recent blog by Sue Aquila, a member of the <i>Interior Mythos Journeys</i> community and an extraordinary Iron Man Triathlete competitor and coach.  You will find it on the Blog section dated 8/29/2011.]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Gene Marshall</title>
<description><![CDATA[Dear Paula,<br/><br/>It is good to meet you and your inquring mind.  Thank you for responding.  I am going to respond to your responses one by one, for you raise so many elemental questions that many others may also raise.  I will use CAPITALS to distinguish my responses from your reponses. I will be focusing on presuppostions, which may feel rather polemical at times, but I do not mean this as an attack on you personally.  I see in your comments a genuine quest for understanding what is so, and I deeply respect that.<br/><br/>Gene<br/><br/><br/>Good day Gene! Thank you for your work, and for the wonderful food for thought it generates! I have just recently come to this forum and was delighted to begin reading - I am now on chapter 3. Below please find some of my thoughts that emerged while reading. They are purely subjective. If, at any time, I have misinterpreted your meaning, please accept my apologies.<br/><br/>"Subjective Objectivity."<br/><br/>WE CAN BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT OUR SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE , AND WE CAN BE SUBJECTIVE ABOUT THE TOPICS WE CHOOSE FOR EMPERICAL STUDY, BUT THE TERM “SUBJECTIVE OBJECTIVITY” IS AN INHERENTLY CONFUSING TERM. <br/><br/>Consilence . . .it is an interesting word. Jumping together. The concept of uniting the sciences and humanities.<br/><br/>To for me the definition of Truth is that which does not change.<br/><br/>I AM USING THE WORD “TRUTH” IN TWO WAYS: (1) THE UNCHANGING TRUTH OF ABSOLUTE MYSTERY THAT IS NEVER GRASPED BY THE HUMAN MIND, AND (2) THE TRUTH THAT IS GRASPED BY THE HUMAN MIND, WHICH IS ALWAYS CHANGING.  FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRUTH OF NEWTONIAN SCIENCE WAS CHANGED BY THE ADVENT OF EINSTEINIAN SCIENCE.  THIS CHANGE WAS OBJECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT NEWTONIAN SCIENCE COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE STRANGE ORBIT OF THE PLANET MERCURY AND EINTEINIAN SCIENCE COULD.   EINSTIEN’S NEW LAW OF GRAVITY WAS TRUER BECAUSE IT HANDLED THE EVIDENCES OF OUR SENSES BETTER.  WE COULD USE OUR EXPERIENCE OF ATOMIC EXPLOSIONS AS ANOTHER EXPAMPLE OF WHAT MAKES EINSTEINIAN PHYSICS MORE TRUE THAN NEWTONIAN PHYSICS.  IN SCIENCE, IT IS THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR SENSES THAT MAKES ONE SET OF MENTAL CREATIONS MORE TRUE THAN ANOTHER.  WHEN RAIN IF FALLING ON YOUR HEAD, IT IS UNTRUE TO CALL IT HALESTONES. <br/><br/>BUT AS FOR THE “UNCHANGING TRUTH” ABOUT HOW THE COSMOS WORKS, SUCH TRUTH IS BEYOND HUMAN COMPREHENSION.  EINSTEINIAN PHYSICS IS A TRUTH THAT IS STILL BEING IMPROVED BY STILL MORE TRUE TRUTHS. EINSTEINIAN PHYSICS IS A FORMULATION OF TRUTH THAT WILL CHANGE. CHANGING IS A QUALITY OF ALL SCIENTIFIC TRUTH.<br/><br/>I believe it to be an objective statement that “Objectivity is the prime directive for the scientific mind.” It is necessary to draw conclusions based on empirical evidence. That scientists have attempted to make this evidence true is, I believe, subjective. As Gene states (I paraphrase), it is well accepted in the scientific community that when new empirical evidence is presented, those truths will change. This leads me to conclude that even though it builds on the past “version of truth” it does in effect negate (at the very least) its objectivity.<br/><br/>YES, VERSION OF TRUTH ARE CONSTANTLY NEGATED, BUT THERE IS NO NEGATION OF OBJECTIVITY BECAUSE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH CHANGES.  IT IS OBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE THAT FORCES THESE CHANGES.<br/><br/>As I read along, I began exploring the actions of the scientist who is gathering this objective evidence. It led to an interesting thought that points to an interesting conclusion.<br/><br/>The scientist is an individual. That in itself establishes subjectivity. She (subjective pronoun referring to an individual) has been born with a unique combination of characteristics and personality traits and they have led her to pursue a career in science. Arguably, she enjoys the gathering of empirical evidence.<br/><br/>She attends grade school, strengthening both her skills and her personality as it becomes integrated with these new skills. She then sets sight on higher education in order to pursue this goal.<br/><br/>Universities have been created as repositories of learning by those with the same characteristics and personality traits as we observe in her. This is one of the reasons why she decides to pick one university over the other – the appeal of like minds in the pursuit of like goals.<br/><br/>She attends this university and eagerly accepts the empirical evidence that is presented to her and the other young, bright minds who are her fellow students.<br/><br/>These students graduate and become scientists in the pursuit of new empirical evidence. Each one uses the evidence that has been gathered and accepted as truth by those before them.<br/><br/>If I could use the analogy of an assembly line, at one end of the line goes the freshman and out the other end comes the scientist . . .having assimilated what they have been presented as true.<br/><br/>I am not saying that this is wrong. We do our very best with the knowledge we have at the moment. As Neale Donald Walsch states in Conversations With God (I paraphrase), “No-one does anything inappropriate, given their view of the world.” This applies to the beneficial as well as the detrimental.<br/><br/>Every scientist would say, I AM a scientist. As it was previously noted by Gene, the being observing and the observation are two separate entities. One cannot help but influence the other.<br/><br/>What came to my mind is that all evidence is subjective, given that each of these scientists who will continue to produce this proof over and over in subsequent testing are of a certain mindset, of similar background and all have very similar training. They fit a mold. It is what makes them scientists and not farmers . . .or prison guards, or any other profession.<br/><br/>YOU ARE OF COURSE CORRECT TO INSIST THAT THE SCIENTIST IS A SUBJECTIVE PERSON, AND SHE HAS CHOSEN TO BECOME A SCIENTIST THROUGH SUBJECTIVE INFLUENCES AND CHOICES.  BUT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD OF SEEKING TRUTH IS OBJECTIVELY A SUCCESSFUL METHOD OF IMPROVING OUR FORUMLATIONS OF WHAT IS TRUE.<br/><br/>Would the scientific community accept the proof a farmer has gathered as empirical evidence if he has no scientific background? <br/><br/>YES.<br/><br/>Especially if he came at it with a radical method of information gathering, contrary to the previously established rules? <br/><br/>IF IT IS IMPERICAL INFOMRATION IT IS  VALID NO MATTER HOW IT IS GATHERED.  THE ESTABLISHED RULES OF SCIENCE ONLY HAVE TO DO WITH TESTING WHETHER INFORMATION IS INDEED GATHERED THROUGH SENSORY OBSERVATIONS. <br/><br/>Would they integrate it into their work and the collective knowledge of this planet? Perhaps, but it would be very difficult. And very subjective.<br/><br/>A TRUE SCEINTIST IS OPEN TO ANY NEW FACTS.  INDEED , THE FACTS THAT DON’T FIT THE COLLECTIE KNOWLEDGE ARE THE MOST INTERESTING, FOR THEY PROVOKE MORE COMPREHESIVE SCIENTIFIC TRUTHS.  THESE NEW FORMULATIONS OF TRUTH ARE NOT “VERY SUBJECTIVE,” THEY ARE SUBJECTIVE CREATIONS OF RATIONAL FORMALATIONS THAT BETTER HANDLE THE OLD AND NEW FACTS.  THIS BETTER HANDLING OF THE FACTS IS WHAT SCIENCE MEANS BY BEING “OBJECTIVE.”<br/><br/>So, I would like to suggest that the evidence that we accept as empirical is subjectively gathered by a body of individuals that use their subjective individuation in an attempt to identify that which does not change.<br/><br/>At best they can only “realize” a reasonable facsimile.<br/><br/>ALL TRUTH KNOWABLE TO HUMANS IS NO MORE THAN “A REASONABLE FACSIMILE” OF THE FULLNESS OF WHAT IS SO.<br/><br/>I have considered the creative ability of each of those individuals and their innate ability to “think outside the box,” to manifest into this world, through imaginative theories and testing, fresh new empirical evidence. However, regardless of how aligned with the creative force this person may be, the experience is still subject to his or her perceptual filters.<br/><br/>THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD HAS TO DO WITH ALTERING OUR PERCEPTUAL FILTERS.  SCIENCE IS AN OBJECTIVE QUEST FOR TRUTH BECAUSE  IT IS WILLING TO OBSERVE BEYOND THE FILTERS TO THE INCOMING SIGNALS OF SIGHTS, SOUNDS, TASTES, SMELLS, AND FEELS.  OF COURSE, IT IS A SUBJECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT IS DOING THE SEEING, HEARING, TASTING, SMELLING, AND FEELING.  SCIENCE IS OBJECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT IT HONORS THOSE INCOMING SIGNALS MORE THAN THE CURRENTLY EXISTING MENTAL FORMUATIONS WITH WHICH WE FILTER ALL INCOMING SIGNALS.<br/><br/>As an individualized aspect of the Whole, this has been my (subjective) experience with all forms of creativity. For any of us, even those with extended longevity, the very short linear timeframe in which we have flourished, as well as our subjectivity to the laws of this realm, does not lend itself to a comprehensive, and objective viewpoint. We are at best, a clear filter, but a filter nonetheless. We are God in Action, but we cannot comprehend the Whole.<br/><br/>TRUE!  WE CANNOT COMPREHEND THE WHOLE.  BOTH SCIENCE AND CONTEMPLATIVE INQUIRY ARE UNENDING QUESTS FOR MORE TRUTH THAT CAN NEVER ARRIVE AT THE WHOLE TRUTH. <br/><br/>Considering this, I contend that, perhaps, the same line of reasoning can be applied to the spiritual aspect of knowledge gathering.<br/><br/>YES, I AGREE.  BUT CONTEMPLATIVE INQUIRY (WHICH IS MY NAME FOR THE SPIRITUAL ASPECT OF KNOWLEDGE GATHERING) IS ALSO OBJECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT THE SUBJECTIVE OR INNER REALM OF EXPERIENCE IS ALSO WHATEVER IT IS.  SO IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO CREATE FORMULATOINS OF INNER WISDOM THAT BETTER FIT OUR ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.  IN THAT SENSE CONTEMPLATIVE INQUIRY CAN BE OBJECTIVE.  SUCH INNER WISDOM IS NOT A MATTER OF ARBITRAY OPINION.<br/><br/>My point is this – The Truth remains unchanged regardless of my interpretation (perception) of it. And just because the whole world believes something is true does not make it True. My understanding of unchanged Truth as objective fact, to me, is what Truth Is.<br/><br/>I REPEAT, THE  SO CALLED UNCHANGEABLE TRUTH IS UNKNOWABLE.  ALL TRUTH KNOWN TO HUMANITY IS CHANGEABLE.  BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE IS NO OBJECTIVITY.  OUR EXPERIENCE OF OUR SENSES AND OUR EXPERIEINCE OF OUR INWARD PROCESSES ARE WHAT THEY ARE, HOWEVER INADEQUATLY WE CURRENTLY CONCEPTUALIZE THEM.<br/><br/>All else is subjective.<br/><br/>YES ,ALL EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE, BUT IT IS SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE OF THAT WHICH IS NOT SUBJECTIVE.  IF THIS WERE NOT TRUE THE VERY WORD “EXPERIENCE” WOULD BE MEANINGLESS.<br/><br/>Considering that, both science and spirituality are subjective. Therein lies the consilence.<br/><br/>NO, THERE IS NO CONCILENCE BETWEEN THE SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO TRUTH AND THE CONTEMEMPLATIVE APROARCH TO TRUTH.  SCIENCE IS A QUEST FOR TRUTH FROM THE OBJECTIVITY OF THE OUTWARD SENSES AND CONTEMPLATIVE INQUIRY IS A QUEST FOR TRUTH FROM THE OBJECTIVITY OF THE ESSENSE OF CONSCIOUSNESS ITSELF.<br/><br/>Paula<br/><br/>GENE]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Paula Tozer</title>
<description><![CDATA[Good day Gene! Thank you for your work, and for the wonderful food for thought it generates! I have just recently come to this forum and was delighted to begin reading - I am now on chapter 3. Below please find some of my thoughts that emerged while reading. They are purely subjective. If, at any time, I have misinterpreted your meaning, please accept my apologies. <br/><br/>"Subjective Objectivity." <br/><br/>Consilence . . .it is an interesting word. Jumping together. The concept of uniting the sciences and humanities. <br/><br/>To for me the definition of Truth is that which does not change. <br/><br/>I believe it to be an objective statement that “Objectivity is the prime directive for the scientific mind.” It is necessary to draw conclusions based on empirical evidence. That scientists have attempted to make this evidence true is, I believe, subjective. As Gene states (I paraphrase), it is well accepted in the scientific community that when new empirical evidence is presented, those truths will change. This leads me to conclude that even though it builds on the past “version of truth” it does in effect negate (at the very least) its objectivity. <br/><br/>As I read along, I began exploring the actions of the scientist who is gathering this objective evidence. It led to an interesting thought that points to an interesting conclusion. <br/><br/>The scientist is an individual. That in itself establishes subjectivity. She (subjective pronoun referring to an individual) has been born with a unique combination of characteristics and personality traits and they have led her to pursue a career in science. Arguably, she enjoys the gathering of empirical evidence. <br/><br/>She attends grade school, strengthening both her skills and her personality as it becomes integrated with these new skills. She then sets sight on higher education in order to pursue this goal. <br/><br/>Universities have been created as repositories of learning by those with the same characteristics and personality traits as we observe in her. This is one of the reasons why she decides to pick one university over the other – the appeal of like minds in the pursuit of like goals.<br/> <br/>She attends this university and eagerly accepts the empirical evidence that is presented to her and the other young, bright minds who are her fellow students. <br/><br/>These students graduate and become scientists in the pursuit of new empirical evidence. Each one uses the evidence that has been gathered and accepted as truth by those before them. <br/><br/>If I could use the analogy of an assembly line, at one end of the line goes the freshman and out the other end comes the scientist . . .having assimilated what they have been presented as true. <br/><br/>I am not saying that this is wrong. We do our very best with the knowledge we have at the moment. As Neale Donald Walsch states in Conversations With God (I paraphrase), “No-one does anything inappropriate, given their view of the world.” This applies to the beneficial as well as the detrimental. <br/><br/>Every scientist would say, I AM a scientist. As it was previously noted by Gene, the being observing and the observation are two separate entities. One cannot help but influence the other. <br/><br/>What came to my mind is that all evidence is subjective, given that each of these scientists who will continue to produce this proof over and over in subsequent testing are of a certain mindset, of similar background and all have very similar training. They fit a mold. It is what makes them scientists and not farmers . . .or prison guards, or any other profession. <br/><br/>Would the scientific community accept the proof a farmer has gathered as empirical evidence if he has no scientific background? Especially if he came at it with a radical method of information gathering, contrary to the previously established rules? Would they integrate it into their work and the collective knowledge of this planet? Perhaps, but it would be very difficult. And very subjective. <br/><br/>So, I would like to suggest that the evidence that we accept as empirical is subjectively gathered by a body of individuals that use their subjective individuation in an attempt to identify that which does not change. <br/><br/>At best they can only “realize” a reasonable facsimile. <br/><br/>I have considered the creative ability of each of those individuals and their innate ability to “think outside the box,” to manifest into this world, through imaginative theories and testing, fresh new empirical evidence. However, regardless of how aligned with the creative force this person may be, the experience is still subject to his or her perceptual filters. <br/><br/>As an individualized aspect of the Whole, this has been my (subjective) experience with all forms of creativity. For any of us, even those with extended longevity, the very short linear timeframe in which we have flourished, as well as our subjectivity to the laws of this realm, does not lend itself to a comprehensive, and objective viewpoint. We are at best, a clear filter, but a filter nonetheless. We are God in Action, but we cannot comprehend the Whole. <br/><br/>Considering this, I contend that, perhaps, the same line of reasoning can be applied to the spiritual aspect of knowledge gathering. <br/><br/>My point is this – The Truth remains unchanged regardless of my interpretation (perception) of it. And just because the whole world believes something is true does not make it True. My understanding of unchanged Truth as objective fact, to me, is what Truth Is. <br/><br/>All else is subjective. <br/><br/>Considering that, both science and spirituality are subjective. Therein lies the consilence. <br/><br/>Paula <br/><br/><strong>Gene Marshall</strong> wrote:<br/><div class=quote>I am initiating this new thread on the topic of a book I am writing. I plan to spend about a third of my working hours in 2012 finishing a book I have been working on for several years. <i>The Enigma of Consciousness</i> is its title. It might be described as a philosophy of religion explaining why religion has always been a critical part of human society and what the role of religion can be in the future. <br/><br/>The topics of this book are very similar to the topics discussed on this site. And I believe it will be both fun and helpful to me to discuss these topics with any or all of you. <br/><br/>Here is how we do that: I have completed an advanced draft of Part One and put it up on the Realistic Living web site along with its current table on contents and the introduction. Each of the seven chapters of Part One is very brief, only a few pages, and the topic is The Enigma of Truth. <br/><br/>So how can you participate? Download any part of the book that interests you and make comments, suggestions, critiques, raise questions, whatever you want. All feedback will help me. And any general discussion in this thread will also help me as well as be interesting for it own sake. <br/><br/>Here is the URL to access this book: <a href="http://www.realisticliving.org/PDF/Enigma" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.RealisticLiving.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealisticLiving.org</a>/PDF/Enigma/</a> <br/><br/>You will see a list of 9 files, click any one of them and a brief pdf document will download to your computer. <br/><br/>Just add your comments to this thread. Or if you would rather e-mail me, you can do so at: jgmarshall@cableone.net <br/><br/>I am not asking for detailed editing, but if you want to do that, please site chapter, page number, paragraph number, and line number for each correction. <br/><br/>Also, I am anticipating that our dialogue on these exciting topics will be a rewarding experience. <br/><br/><br/>Grace and Peace (transformative happenings and boundless equanimity), <br/><br/>Gene Marshall <br/><br/>For Realistic Living resources, check out our web site: <a href="http://www.RealisticLiving.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealisticLiving.org</a> <br/>And view our blog: <a href="http://www.RealisticLiving.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealisticLiving.org</a>/blog/ <br/><br/>To read our PDF files you need a PDF reader. <br/>You can download an adobe acrobat reader free by going to: <br/><a href="http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html</a> <br/>edited by Gene Marshall on 11/26/2011 <br/>edited by Don Cramer on 1/17/2012 <br/>edited by Don Cramer on 1/17/2012</div> <br/>edited by Paula Tozer on 4/15/2012<br/><em>edited by Paula Tozer on 4/15/2012</em>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[This is just too cool!!<br/>  I have often thought of the correlation between spirituality and athletics!  I have written about it in my blog as in the Spiritual Aspects of Physical Exercise.  As a runner, hiker, kayaker, road biker and martial artist there is a mindspace into which I delve when I am working out that is as close to meditation as I can get off of the cushion.  My husband and I both benefit from meditation as part of our athletic training, as well as attending to the scientific component.<br/><br/>And I have had more epithanys regarding my true nature during endurance events than anywhere else.  "Leaving it all on the road" is a profound test of character.<br/><br/>I can totally understand where a person would recognize contemplation on the face of a marathon runner.  They transcend matter in order to endure.  It is also interesting to me that the majority of distance runners (at least here in our area) are older.  The shorter distances are the domain of the young.  We have often wondered if it takes a certain amount of seasoning and wisdom that is only gained through experience to accomplish the many hours of disciplined training it takes to prepare for a distance event is the reason.  <br/><br/>I treat distance workouts as moving meditations.<br/><br/>Love this topic!!!  <br/><br/>Paula<br/>  <strong>Michael D. May</strong> wrote:<br/><div class=quote>Jim, <br/><br/>Thank you for this great question. <br/><br/>The question you raise is much bigger than we are going to touch here, so I will start by saving the “science” part for another time. <br/><br/>So the question is, “why athletics?” <br/><br/>Why might athletics be a critical current source for language and poetry to inform a Relevant Contemporary Mythos; a story that can resonate today? <br/><br/>Athletics is, on the surface, an absurd and unlikely place to look for language that may reveal the depth of human experience in our time. This has to be nuts! Mythic Language has always been the domain of this or that depth-seeking tradition; but “ESPN?” C’mon! <br/><br/>Underneath this question of “athletics” is really a deeper question. This deeper question is that of “the body;” and, what do I do with it?” <br/><br/>Nikos Kazantzakis provides a good introduction to the subject: <br/><br/><b><i>I put my body through its paces like a war horse; I keep it lean, sturdy, prepared. I harden it and I pity it. I have no other steed. I keep my brain wide awake, lucid, unmerciful. I unleash it to battle relentlessly so that, all light, it may devour the darkness of the flesh. I have no other workshop where I may transform darkness into light. </i></b>—Nikos Kazantzakis <br/><br/>The body is our first classroom when we come into this world. The body is our last classroom when we depart. It is within the body we learn every other lesson we encounter within the span of a lifetime. It is within the body’s framework that we experience every experience we ever experience. <br/><br/>Consciousness is biological; or, the dynamics of which consciousness of consciousness of consciousness occur are <u>within</u> the container of a body. I ignore this reality at my own peril. If you don’t think this is true, try getting a fever. I can observe what happens to the quality of my consciousness as my core temperature rises. Physical pain is another guide that is always ready to reveal the link between my body and the container of focus, attention, and consciousness. Popular culture likes to reflect on the mind-body connection. Yet, those exploring a deeper path understand that the missing component is the mind-body- freely chosen relationship element. <br/><br/>The last 20 years, from the early 1990’s until now, have been the first time in human history that we as a species have actually focused some of our highest science, research, and scholarship on the subject of physical exercise and its impact and relationship to the human brain. The material coming back from this endeavor is fascinating, radical, offensive, uplifting, and revolutionary. As tempting as it is, I will not pursue this topic here. However, the best summary on the subject I have encountered is the book <u>Spark</u> by John J. Ratey, M.D. of Harvard. <br/><br/>But let’s get back to “Athletics and Language.” <br/><br/>I use the “5 P’s” as criteria for selecting acceptable poetry for a Relevant Contemporary Mythos; or appropriate depth mythic language in today’s setting. I practice the 5 P criteria in how I talk to myself. <br/><br/>1) <b>Planetary</b> – Is this language global and universal and can anybody, anywhere grasp it if they choose to? <br/><br/>2) <b>Plausible</b> – Is the word or language or poetry congruent with a 21st Century Quantum Scientific understanding; in such a way that I do not have to suspend my rational grasp of reality and revert to a 2-story scientific model and worldview that is at least 4000 years old in order to grasp the word or poetry being used? <br/><br/>3) <b>Present Tense</b> – Does this word help me to grasp the “here” and the “now” or does it invite me to a separation that is “non-local?” <br/><br/>4) <b>Personal</b> – Does this word or poetry connect me with the “I am” that I am in such a way that I can <u>practice</u> it? Can I own, embody, posture, presence, and practice the understanding? I have little interest in what someone “believes.” I have great interest in what someone chooses to practice. <br/><br/>5) <b>Profound</b> – Does this word or poetry assist me in my interior journey to connect with the One Awesome Unspeakable Reality at the center of existence and in which all things cohere and within which “I live and move and have my being?” <br/><br/>Athletics provides a laboratory for exercising all of the above. 1) Athletics is global; it has the attention, participation, and passion of the entire world and on the playing field of the planet there are no language barriers. Everyone everywhere has a body and every body has the possibility of intentional movement (athletics). 2) There is nothing more scientifically valid or measurable than that which the physical body performs. 3) Athletic activity only happens in the “here” and the “now.” 4) Most of us seem to identify significantly with our bodies. Many understand themselves only and exclusively within the context of a body; this is “personal.” 5) The “runner’s high” is now a well-known phenomenon. Athletics, for many, provides a portal for connecting with a realm of Oneness and Wholeness they do not experience in any other dimension of their lives. <br/><br/>George Sheehan, the Cardiologist who for many years wrote a column for <i>Runner’s World</i> magazine said: <br/><br/><b><i>What the runner’s face shows is not boredom but contemplation, which Thomas Aquinas described as a human’s highest activity save one—contemplation plus putting the fruits of that contemplation into action. <br/></i></b>—George Sheehan, M.D. <br/><br/>Athletics today is providing a rich laboratory for solitary individuals and team configurations to generate and explore new language which is experientially valid and helpful in containing deep relationships one might wish to nurture and sustain. <br/><br/>Intentional “self-talk” and the use of “affirmations” have become standard fare for coaches and sports psychologists. When I was directing an <i>Inner Athletics</i> program for NCAA Division I athletes it became clear that, after a certain point, the only place to go for an edge to move performance to a higher level was “within.” Most of us experience the same thing when we run out of external realities to mix up or change around in some quest for “happiness” or to “fix” the issues in our external lives. Finally, we have to dive into our freedom and confront the possibility of choosing a new relationship to the “here” and the “now” and the “given.” <br/><br/>It is my observation that we each need our own tennis court, or swimming pool, or track, or a block in our neighborhood around which to walk…..but, we need an arena within which to <u>embody</u> and <u>practice</u> the postures we have chosen to the One Encounter that transforms all things. No high minded or abstract or uplifting concept, from my perspective, is finally valid unless it can be demonstrated on the track, on the court, or in the pool, or somewhere upon the playing field of real everyday life. <br/><br/>Over 40 years ago, when I was 14 years of age, my mind was abducted by a cult of wise teachers cloistered in an Institute in a Westside ghetto in Chicago. They taught me an alternative perspective on life and a totally different way of living and being in the world. From this alternative perspective and revolutionary style of life I have never recovered; I have never escaped – nor do I intend to now. <br/><br/>These wise teachers taught me the four components of a Journey of Depth: <br/><br/>1) An Encounter with Ultimate Reality – which confronts me with my absolute Limits, and paradoxically, my Limitlessness. <br/><br/>2) A Myth or story is forged about that Encounter in order to hold the interior relationship I choose to embody and rehearse toward the Reality behind the Encounter. <br/><br/>3) The Style I choose to present to the world as a result of this Encounter. In this regard I have two fundamental options: a) an authentic posture acknowledging and embracing the Reality behind by the Encounter or b) an inauthentic posture denying, escaping, avoiding, dismissing, or rebelling against the truth and Presence of the Encounter. <br/><br/>4) The Service I choose to affirm my expenditure in the time and space and the human community of which I am a part. <br/><br/>Athletics and the Classroom of the Body allow us to radically and personally ground all of the above dynamics creating a fertile environment within which to grow contemporary poetry and new existential and experience-based language. <br/><br/>The body is a great place to precipitate an immediate and existential encounter with Limit. If you are not certain if this is true, hold your breath. Start Now!....... Don’t breathe………keep holding your breath. Very soon you will begin to encounter a Limiting Reality. You will be convinced of its truth; of its presence and its reality. You can also accomplish this by walking or rolling your wheel chair around the block. Then do it again; but faster. Then do it again; but faster. Then do it again; but faster. At some point you will become breath-less and begin to sweat. If we are still viable as a physical body, regardless of our size, color, shape, age, culture, location on the planet, or anything else, we can <u>experience</u> these athletic encounters. The Classroom of the Body is universal. <br/><br/>In sport, I learn to seek out the language that allows me to perpetually live in the “Teeth of Reality;” where I seek out the place of maximum tension and then learn the interior story, life practices, and posture that allow me to sustain being there achieving peak performance. <br/><br/>Intentional interior life journeys are commonplace among athletes in all sports and at all levels of play. Show me a high-performing athlete in any sport today and I will show you someone who is nurturing an intentional interior life; even if athletics is the only area of their life in which such intention plays a role. <br/><br/>It is the area of “Style” in athletics that has already generated a bonanza of great new mythic language and poetry and this process is still in its infancy. The question of choosing an authentic relationship to life and <u>embodying</u> such a relationship in a demonstrated style is something traditional depth-seeking traditions of the West have pointed to with the Supporting Myth poetry or Code Words beginning in an “H” and an “S.” After World War II, a young Hungarian, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, watched the dismantling of his family’s former aristocratic world and the destruction of many lives. He decided to immigrate to the United States to study the subject of “happiness.” As he pursued his research and academic path, he soon discovered that the fundamental pursuit that drives most human endeavor is not a quest for “happiness” so much as it is a connection in “Flow.” This “flow state” delivers one into an experience of connectedness where one’s body, mind, the environment, and the activity in which one is involved, all become one. The participant in such a flow state loses track of time and enters a state of timelessness, or, in athletic language, “tachypsychia.” One becomes so engrossed in the process in which one is engaged that a sense of “self” is lost. It is this “flow state” that is transformative. Most human beings, when confronted with such a conceptual framework, can tell you exactly where such a flow state is most likely to occur in their lives; in the garden, eating a good meal, socializing with friends, at the bowling alley, sitting on a mountaintop, making love, or wherever; but, they know. <br/><br/>Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi became a world-famous Professor at the University of Chicago and coordinated cross-cultural research projects on the conditions and the experience of “Flow” in collaboration with universities all over the planet. A wealth of research and material is now available on the subject and is packaged in universally acceptable academic research and language. <u>Flow</u>, published in 1990 by Dr. Csikszentmihalyi, is a classic primer on the subject. <u>Flow in Sports</u> was published in 1999 and brings much of the theory into very practical athletic application. This is a huge reservoir of great material and I will not pursue it here, except to say, the potential contribution to new poetry and clarifying jargon for a Relevant Contemporary Mythos is immense. A recent link which provides a short overview of Dr. Csikszentmihalyi’s work can be accessed at: <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/flow/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/flow/</a>. <br/><br/>At this stage of my journey, I am convinced there are only two states in life: “Flow” and “self.” When I am caught in “self,” I can be certain I am not in “Flow.” <br/><br/>Finally, when engaging the body in athletics, at some point the reality of a world of other players becomes apparent and “the game” or mission appears. As with most everything else in life, a game is engaged solitarily or on a team or, more likely, in both configurations at once; and thus is the question raised: “How do I play with others?” Or as Dr. Sheehan observes: <br/><br/><b><i>How am I? The race is the answer, the only answer. The runner is truly a person dissatisfied with the status quo. Her object is to reach goals that are continually being reset. And she is only aware of where she is and who she is when she is challenged. Like one driven, she is everlastingly beset by doubt and just as everlastingly asking to be tested.</i></b><i> </i>—George Sheehan, M.D. <br/><br/>All of the great depth-seeking traditions have made the engagement of the body central to the depth relational practices they have promoted. Such practices include fasting, asceticism, Yoga, the wake, and countless others. All of these practices make use of the finite body vessel as a gateway to connection with that which is Ultimately Real and Infinite. To encounter a diversity of reflections on this subject, visit the Story Circle Curriculum section of <a href="http://www.storywarrior.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#800080">www.storywarrior.net</span></a> and view the VOICES under “Body Vessel.” A couple of statements from the VOICES are worth rehearsing to close this reflection: <br/><br/><b><i>There is one thing that, when cultivated and regularly practiced, leads to deep spiritual [relational] intention, to peace, to mindfulness and clear comprehension, to vision and knowledge, to a happy life here and now, and to the culmination of wisdom and awakening. And what is that one thing? It is mindfulness centered on the body.</i></b> <br/>—The Buddha <br/>from the Satipatthana Sutta <br/><br/><br/><b><i>I traveled the whole world looking for adventure, and found it in my own body. </i></b>—George Sheehan, M.D. <br/>edited by Michael D. May on 4/17/2011</div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Here is what Nikos Kazantzakis has to say on the subject:<br/> <br/><br/> <b><i>Never acknowledge the limitations of humanity.  Smash all boundaries!  Deny whatever your eyes see.  Die every moment, but say:  "Death does not exist."</i></b><b><i>	</i></b>		<br/>                                                                                                                                                   <br/>                                                                                                                                                           ---Nikos Kazantzakis]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Okay  <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 />  <strong>Michael D. May</strong> wrote:<br/><div class=quote>Paula, Please consider posting the Blog message here so that we can review it (the Journal messages are personal and password protected). Thanks, Michael</div>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;Aging&quot; a message from Paula Tozer</title>
<description><![CDATA[Age Is Just A Number?? <br/><br/>Who doesn't like a winter vacation to somewhere warm? I live in a climate of extremes here in New Brunswick - it can be +33 deg celsius in the summer, and plunge to -40 deg (more with wind chill factored in) in the winter. It is interesting to note that most of the tropical destinations do not have a temperature spread of more than a few degrees at any point in the year. I guess, with that consistency, it is why a person can pretty much be guaranteed a warm vacation when they book their trip down south. <br/><br/>I enjoy the winter. Now, I cannot say that I enjoy freezing rain, or travelling in a snowstorm, or when the power goes out and leaves us with no comfortable way to heat our house (it is not good to be so dependent on electricity!). In fact those events can be downright stressful. <br/><br/>What I do enjoy, however, are outdoor winter sports. We are fortunate to have a large property on which to snowshoe, and to ski. Once we have enough snow, we shoe every day we possibly can. We have a 4.5k loop that takes us around the perimiters of the property and into the farmland beyond. <br/><br/>It always gives me pause when someone hears that we are going down south, they inevitably talk of how much they hate the winter and would love to get out of here, even for a short while. I think that is quite a waste of time and energy, spending life hating something. And since most of us must work and live here in this climate then it is not practical to think that way, either. <br/><br/>Perhaps I could suggest something? Buy some really good long underwear, as well as a good coat and boots, and whatever other gear you need to stay warm, and find a reason to enjoy the outdoors in winter. <br/><br/>It will do your spirit good to feel the crisp air on your face, and see the sun creating crystalline gems on the snow. There is nothing in the world like a trek in the forest after a snowstorm, when all sound is muffled under a discrete blanket of snow. You feel like you are the only person in the world in those moments. It can be so quiet that the sweet chirps of the small chickadees flitting from branch to branch seem loud. <br/><br/>One such moment I will never forget was when I was alone at the top of a hill, skiing along. The sun was bright and warm, and there was no hint of wind. All of a sudden I heard a whosh, whosh coming up behind me. It was so loud that I kind of jumped as I turned around to see what it was, and almost lost my balance. Not too far above me was a crow, its wings catching the silent air as it flew along. <br/><br/>What an experience! It was otherworldly, and mystical in its intensity. I realize now that it was not as much about the sound that the crow's wings made, but the silence in between, that made all the difference. <br/><br/>There are so many things in this world that hold that sort of mystical intensity. There is so much to experience, so much to enjoy in each precious moment of this life! Each day is chock full of miracles. We just must be aware and listen for the silence that heralds each event. <br/><br/>In order to do so we must change our minds about our day to day lives. When we declare that we "hate" something, each and every little intricate piece of that something is lessened and negated. We harden our hearts to any magic that is there as a gift to us, waiting to be unwrapped. <br/><br/>Kirkegaard said, "When you label me, you negate me." It is one of my most favorite quotes. I prefer to remain apart from categorizations, designations and labels, because by saying what I am, I am also saying all of those things that I am not. It serves me best to remain open and fluid regarding what I choose to speak of, and to demonstrate about myself and my life. I see life as a precious gem. There may be many facets of the jewel of which I am presently not aware, and I would only be robbing myself of those wonderful attributes if I declared that I would not (could not) be that person. If, in whatever manner they could be conceived, if I could learn, grow and help others from an experience, why would I do this to myself? <br/><br/>I have found that this way of thinking can translate into every aspect of my life. It is key that I am aware of my own thoughts and my internal programming, so as to realize when the thoughts that I have been thinking are limiting, fearful and serve to detract from my living my best life. <br/><br/>I have come to realize that there is an extremely small window of time in which an individual truly feels young. It is disturbingly small. Once a teenager reaches the age when they are no longer in high school, they begin to look at younger kids and think about the age gap in terms of their getting older. People reach their 30th birthday and spend the day in bed, depressed. We think that birthday cards that announce we are "over the hill" and having enough candles on the cake to "start a forest fire", are amusing. We cannot change it, so we might as well laugh about it, right? <br/><br/>Think about it. What does the statement, "Age is just a number," stir in you? Does it bring up feelings of defensiveness, or hopelessness, or complacency? Only old people would say that, right? <br/><br/>Physically, I do not feel one bit different than I did at 20. In fact, I am stronger, healthier and have more energy on a consistent basis than I did 30 years ago. In those decades I have experienced a lot, grown spiritually and learned an enormous amount, and loved even more. My life now is one that I would have dreamed of when I was 20. <br/><br/>So why, in any wild stretch of the imagination, would I want to devalue those gains and accomplishments by telling myself that I am getting old, and to enjoy it now because it will come to an end? I have lived 51 years. It is what it is. Why I would talk to myself in limiting terms for the rest of my life puzzles me, and it also has made me aware of the things that I may be saying to myself that contribute to the life experience we have labeled, "aging". I do not dwell on past injuries, or on the effects that hard physical exercise and work can have on the body. I believe that an enormous amount of the aspects of aging we experience are the result of our own negative programming. <br/><br/>Okay, you are saying. She is delusional for sure this time. This proves it. We are getting older every day, dying each day . . . a little bit. And one day she will lose her energy, she will develop aches and pains just like the rest of us, and she will die. Everyone dies. <br/><br/>And, I may be an anomolie, or just plain lucky. Perhaps my genetic makeup is different than yours, or fate has dealt me better cards. Perhaps. There certainly are some events in life that can blindside us, and throw us off track. Or perhaps, it is simply because I have never thought of myself as one bit different in capability at 20 than I do at 51. And perhaps, every thought is cumulative, and it really does count. <br/><br/>I have always admired Jack LaLanne. This man changed the way we look at exercise, and nutrition, and living a fit lifestyle. His zest for living, his personal strength and total belief in his capabilities, are truly inspirational. He was a sharp businessman and an innovator. He delivered on his belief in fitness and nutrition being the key to a long, healthy life by living into his 90's with a vibrancy that most of us cannot boast of at 60. <br/><br/>Was he an anomolie? Perhaps, when he began, I think he was. But during the course of his lifetime he influenced the way that people thought about aging, and health. And now he is not the anomolie. There are people running marathons at 70, and 80. They are hiking mountains, and kayaking and road biking and still loving life with every fibre of their being! These, along with the memory of the smiling face of Jack LaLanne, eyes twinkling as he gave one of his inspirational talks, are my inspiration! <br/><br/>If you were to ask him, in the last years of his vibrant life, "Do you think that you were different or special and do you think that others could not do what you had done? I am confident he would say, "Definitely not! Believe in yourself! If you say you cannot or you are too old, you have defeated yourself before you even try. This is your life, and these are your dreams! Go out there and live!" <br/><br/>Another of my favorite sayings is one of my own, "Just because everyone says that it is true, doesn't make it true." On this I have staked my life. <br/><br/>We can get into a lot of metaphysical debates about what it means to die and that if the spirit survives, then do we truly die? We can talk till we lay down, taking our last breath, and discuss it. And at that moment, what you say will be true for you. And what I say will be true for me. But that does not, ultimately, make it true. <br/><br/>That we are part of what seems like a teeming world of an enormous collective of mankind, and are subject to the laws of this dimension, seems real to me at this moment. Yet, my Spirit has soared to places where the laws of this dimension do not exist, and I know deep within me that my essence is Spirit. I also know deep within that I am a Goddess, that my essence is Divine, and that I am a co-Creator with my Source. <br/><br/>And even if I have not quite figured it out yet, I know that I have the ability to create my life experience, and to manifest my destiny. If I knew it all I would not be here, as I have stated before. <br/>Enstein knew, deep within, that he could calculate the speed of light. He conceived it within his mind, in co-creation with his Source. His imagination was his medium for the conception of the thought. It remained theory for a long time. In the creative process, word follows thought, and action follows word. You conceive of it, then speak (or write) of it, then manifest it. This is the way creation works. <br/><br/>Einstein used his skill and gifts of imagination for mathematics and calculations, and gave the world precious gifts that opened doors to the Universe. What if he would have simply been complacent and choose to believe what everyone else believed was true? I am so glad that he did not, and even though I am not adept in mathematics and would have difficulty to understand (and would have difficulty finding the motivation to want to understand it) his calculations . . . the process behind the mathematics, the INSPIRATION, is what appeals to me. It is the theory that can be applied to any aspect of the life of an individual. It is true that we all stand on the shoulders of giants. <br/><br/>Dr. Deepak Chopra, in his book, "Reinventing The Body, Resurrecting The Soul," examines such ideas and misperceptions that surround the aging process. We are so much more than the little being we believe ourselves to be. We have so much ability, and so many resources. If we, each day, program ourselves with life-limiting thoughts and beliefs, and indulge in the complacency of defeat, we must examine our motivation for doing so. If we do not, it will indeed cost us our life. <br/><br/>We must ask ourselves, if we are wonderfully intelligent, how do we manifest this intelligence? If we live and die in the same way as those creatures of limited intelligence, how does that make us different from an ape? If we complacently follow the crowd, going through the motions conditioned into us from childhood, how are we different from cattle? <br/><br/>By accepting what others hold as true, and by then seeing the world through the veil of those beliefs and ideas, we actually make them real in our own lives. We live the life that is dictated to us by others, devoid of an authentic thought. We cannot seem to understand, at this point, that we are creating what we are perceiving. <br/><br/>Therein lies the challenge, and one of the most important reasons why we are here on this earth. Why you are reading this entry. To become aware of what you think, say and do that is limiting your life experience, and once you are aware, to take action so it no longer limits you. We may very well find that what we have been taught sits well with us, and that we can now accept these ideas as our own on a conscious level. Or we may find too many inconsistencies and have to find the courage to search until we find what we truly believe is right for us. <br/><br/>What do you profess to hate? What limits you? Is age just a number? What brings you joy, and peace, and fills you to the brim with energy and zest for life? These questions represent just some of the choices and decisions that you make and tell yourself each day. There are many more. And they are all up to you to figure out. <br/><br/>You do have choices. You can become aware, choose to change, and then help others to become aware. Or you may not. Either way is perfection at this time. Perhaps you are ready, but perhaps you are not. If you choose not to choose, be aware that this is a choice, nonetheless. <br/><br/>The sun will still shine, the birds will still sing . . . and the shining jewels the crust of the snow deep in the forest will still sparkle in the sunlight. Those of us who have chosen to challenge our limitations will see the magic in moments that may not exist in your world. That seems sad to me. <br/><br/>And, perhaps, at some point, we will all die. You may be right <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 /> <br/><br/><br/><br/>Namaste . . .<br/><em>edited by Paula Tozer on 4/14/2012</em>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;Contemporary Mythic Language&quot; a message from Michael D. May</title>
<description><![CDATA[These Video Clips have just been added to the Video Gallery and will contribute to the questions of "Contemporary Mythic Language" and "What is the Inner Journey?"<br/><br/>Encounter the feature video link  <a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740966/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=2&t3=134" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><u>Symbol Eaters</u></a>  <br/>  <br/> Or any of these clips from the same program:<br/>  <br/> <u><a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740967/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=1&t3=135" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Shooting People After the War</a></u><br/>  <br/> <u><a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740968/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=3&t3=136" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Offense of “Me”</a></u><br/> <u> </u><br/> <u><a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740969/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=2&t3=137" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Programmable Protoplasm</a></u><br/>  <br/> <u><a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740970/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=1&t2=3&t3=138" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Offended by Nothing</a></u><br/>  <br/> Review the entire video message:   <a href="http://e2ma.net/go/12668090155/214056590/228740971/42140/goto:http://www.storywarrior.net/public/video/categorized.aspx?t1=2&t2=3&t3=47" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><u>The Transforming Power of Story </u></a> (Message VII)<br/><br/><br/><br/>Please share reflections, comments, or questions as a "Reply" to this Thread.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Paula, Please consider posting the Blog message here so that we can review it (the Journal messages are personal and password protected). Thanks, Michael]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[This video was wonderful! I thought of something as I was watching it, which was, I am surmising, its point. Why wait for the end of life to celebrate life? Celebrate each day!!! I have written a blog that relates to this subject - I have entered it into my journal on this site as well. I hope it opens up another level of discussion on the subject! <br/><br/>Paula<br/><em>edited by Paula Tozer on 4/14/2012</em>]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Positive Effects of Silence&quot; a message from Paula Tozer</title>
<description><![CDATA[Silence . . .simplicity . . .sacredness . . . these are synonymous to me.<br/><br/>We all seem intent on making everything complicated.  To confuse and confound thoughts and actions until the Truth becomes profoundly obscured.  I think that is the reason for doing it.<br/><br/>I believe that we has humans crave simplicity even as we resist its call.  We love when 1+1=2.<br/><br/>Problems arise because simplicity is not exciting.  It can be downright boring to those of us who feed on drama.  Drama has been our sustenance for so long we don't know how to cut ourselves off from it and not starve.<br/><br/>Meditation opens the door to the silence and simplicity that are the quailties of the realm of the Sacred.  To the Flow.  To the Atman.  To the Tao.  To the Source.  To Divine order.<br/><br/>It is important to remember that the Truth stands regardless of our interpretation of it.  That is Its gift.  It waits in silence for us to know it once again.  It has no requirement for busy-ness, or fanfare, or self-promotion.  It has no Self.  It Is.<br/><br/>The world is not our enemy.  The body is not our enemy.  The mind is not our enemy.  In the silent, healing halls alive with the pungent perfume of the Sacred, we know why this is true.  That is simplicity.<br/><br/>Step with me . . into that quiet hall . .hear the instant HUSH as the curtain closes . . time is suspended here . . evolution is on hiatus . . there is no need to survive or to thrive . .and no purpose for synonyms . .or syncronicity . . or even . . . .silence<br/><br/>Namaste, Beloved<br/><br/>Paula]]></description>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Michael D. May</title>
<description><![CDATA[I have now made it through the interior gymnastics of Chapter 13 where the <u>Enigma of Consciousness</u> invites us to explore time and timelessness, here and now, and the mystery of the self and how these are all related.  Be prepared to read this chapter more than once.  While a somewhat tortured journey for me with my limited ability to grasp such things, I highly recommend the journey.  Gene's ability to bring clarity to the critical insights of Mr. Kierkegaard and deliver them into relevance to my day to day life is something I most appreciate about Chapter 13.  If you have ever struggled, as I have, with Soren Kierkegaard's foundational insight from <u>Sickness Unto Death</u>, you will find this chapter helpful: <br/><br/>Man is spirit. But what is spirit? Spirit is the self. But what is the self? The self is a relation which relates itself to its own self, or it is that in the relation [which accounts for it] that the relation relates itself to its own self; the self is not the relation but [consists in the fact] that the relation relates itself to its own self. Man is a synthesis of the infinite and the finite, of the temporal and the eternal, of freedom and necessity, in short it is a synthesis. A synthesis is a relation between two factors. So regarded, man is not yet a self.<br/> In the relation between two, the relation is the third term as a negative unity, and the two relate themselves to the relation, and in the relation to the relation; such a relation is that between soul and body, when man is regarded as soul. If on the contrary the relation relates itself to its own self, the relation is then the positive third term, and this is the self.<br/> Such a relation which relates itself to its own self (that is to say, a self) must either have constituted itself or have been constituted by another.............etc.  <br/><br/><br/>Chapter 13 puts this understanding in relationship to ancient Hinduism and popular New Age concepts and helps to discover the authentic "me" that Mr. Kierkegaard's insight clarifies.  I will be digesting this for awhile.  But then again,  I am an "Infinite Relatedness!"]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:17:51 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Topic &quot;Our Meditative Councils&quot; a message from Amanda Storywarrior</title>
<description><![CDATA["God loves you.  Now act like it!"   Thank you.  I have just changed my relationship to my day.  I have also added you and St. Augustine to my Interior Council.  Thank you Don.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:50:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Topic &quot;Our Meditative Councils&quot; a message from Don Cramer</title>
<description><![CDATA[Getting the most out of your Meditative Council<br/> <br/><br/> <br/><br/> The personal stories of key people in our lives illumine the importance of 'talking' to members of a meditative council…this usually means allowing your memory to provide details and your emotions to fill in the meaning.  They especially invade my consciousness during meditation and/or dream time…and sometimes when I am just driving down the road.  The image of 'whisperings,' is more like it than 'invasion,' although sometimes it feels like the latter.<br/> <br/><br/> In times of meditation, dream time or just allowing my mind to roll,  my conscious mind goes diligently after the insight, the image, the story:  like a dog into a rabbit hole, in search of that flash or pounce that had caught his attention.  I am hungry to discover why the visit, what was the intent, what message is being sent to me.  Whether the messenger is currently on my Council or not is irrelevant, a message is coming into my consciousness and I want to honor its arrival and learn from it.<br/> <br/><br/> At this point is when, Steve, JWM's image of <u>integrity</u> keeps me from a disconnect from reality instead of "some form of whole-hearted, no split-mindedness".   When I suspect a disconnection coming I turn to a few pre-selected Council members:  people whose intuition I trust, who have well trained skills at being rational, whose experience is broad, and for whom I have a deep love.  Urgency may lead me to do an email, pick up the phone or track them down so we can sit for a serious and extensive talk, even if I have to call some of them from the grave.<br/> <br/><br/> One of my active Council Members is St. Augustine.  <br/> At least in my memory he said, "God Loves you. Now Act Like it!"  <br/> His message:  Why are you experiencing self depreciation, despair?  You've got the Final Reality on your side, just get on with your life.  What more do you need?<br/> <br/><br/> For many of us, members of our most immediate family are major figures on our Meditative Councils, (by whatever name we give this dynamic).  Be grateful for those whom life has given.  <br/> <br/><br/> Most of the male family members I knew as a kid were whiskey swigging, bone cracking, run for your life lumberjacks whose language skills were somewhat under cultivated.  When I think of them I think of a team of Protectors.  If your name was either Cheney (Mother's side- five brothers) or Cramer (Dad's side- 3 brothers) you had best not curse, shove, flirt with or assault anyone in our 'extended family' if you did not want a thorough thumping:  black eyes, bloody noses, broken limbs and splintered furniture from whomever was still standing.  The women, for the most part, went outside or to their cars when someone lit the fuse.  One side benefit from this home team was a certain "Don't Mess With Me" swagger to its members.<br/> <br/><br/> Somehow my mother, while being raised in this culture, experienced herself as being loved and therefore spoke from a place of gratitude.  A primordial kinship for nature and a genuine kindness.  She had some Native American blood in her veins.  Thanks again, Mom.  <br/> <br/><br/> She married my Dad who was hard working, generous and smart enough to get me out of that culture.  He had no money for my education but he did whatever he could to convince me that The Woods was a dead end.  "Get out of here and go to college, son."  Thanks again Dad.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:23:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Topic &quot;The Enigma of Consciousness&quot; a message from Gene Marshall</title>
<description><![CDATA[Thanks Randy for bringing Harman and Rifkin to the table. They certainly illustrate that these topics resonate very widely in our complex culture.<br/><br/>And Yes, Reality calls forth consciousness, humans do not create it, nor do they create the Reality that calls forth consciousness.<br/><br/>At the same time consciousness is an active participant in the determination of what Reality shall be next. And I see that as true in two ways:<br/><br/>First of all, consciousness is a co-creator of specific outcomes. Global warming is our responsibility.  We humans did it.  Moderating further climate change is also our responsibility, we will do or not do what is required.  We are co-creators with all the other forces of nature.<br/><br/>Secondly, we create Reality by replacing old paradigms with new ones.  Once our modes of seeing are deeply changed, we find ourselves in a new world.  We are conscious of Reality in new ways.  We see a "different" Reality, even though we can assume that this new Reality was always there and that we were blind to it.<br/><br/>We live within an inherited River of Consciousness, but the river flows on, and we decide things that alter the flow.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 07:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
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